Customer interviews

How to talk to customers

Alex Osterwalder
Carol Hill
Kurt Bostelaar
December 9, 2024
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Centering Customers
Customer Insights
Platform
Testing
Value Proposition Canvas

Imagine your team has spent months developing the perfect solution. You've refined the features, polished the design, and mapped out the rollout plan. Then comes launch day, and... crickets. The market response is lukewarm at best. For many small and medium-sized enterprises, this scenario plays out far too often, usually stemming from a single root cause: insufficient customer understanding.

In a recent webinar, we explored why many teams struggle to capture meaningful insights from their customer interviews and how to overcome it. The data was eye-opening: When asked about their teams' interview capabilities, most participants rated their expertise between 2-3 out of 10. This matches what we see across organizations — while everyone agrees customer input is crucial, few feel equipped to gather it effectively.

The three key challenges in customer research

  1. Getting out of the building: Whether due to limited resources, unclear responsibilities, or simple reluctance, many teams struggle to initiate customer conversations. While some gatekeeping around customer access makes sense (especially in sales contexts), innovation teams need direct customer contact to succeed.
  2. Unstructured interviews: Without a clear framework, interviews often become scattered conversations that yield few actionable insights. Teams need a structured approach to gather enough data to detect patterns and make informed decisions.
  3. Extracting insights: Perhaps the most challenging aspect is turning customer conversations into clear, actionable insights that can drive decision-making. This becomes especially crucial when teams need to communicate findings to stakeholders.

A structured approach to customer understanding

One effective solution is to use the designed Customer Profile to conduct interviews. This method provides a clear framework for understanding customer jobs, pains, and gains while ensuring consistency across multiple interviews.

A Canadian consumer packaged goods company recently put this into practice. Their team, with no prior interview experience, conducted 20 customer profile interviews over several weeks. The results were striking: 91% of their initial assumptions about customer jobs needed revision, and 55% of their assumed customer pains were incorrect.

What made this approach effective was its structured nature. Rather than open-ended conversations, the team used a clear framework to:

  • Map their initial understanding of customer needs
  • Test these assumptions through structured interviews
  • Track patterns and insights systematically
  • Make evidence-based decisions about their innovation direction
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Beyond basic interviews

While customer profile interviews provide an excellent foundation, they're not the only tool available. Other effective techniques include:

  • Speedboat analysis: A visual technique where customers identify factors helping or hindering their progress toward goals
  • Value scene mapping: Using visual scenarios to explore how solutions create value in specific contexts
  • Card sorting: For prioritizing features or needs based on customer input

The key is matching the right technique to your specific learning objectives and stage of development.


Kurt Bostelaar shows how the Innovation Management Platform helps teams gather and analyse customer feedback.

Moving forward

For teams starting their customer discovery journey, here are three practical steps:

  1. Start with a structured approach like Customer Profile interviews to build confidence and consistency
  2. Analyze findings weekly rather than waiting for all interviews to be complete
  3. Use visual techniques to deepen understanding of customer priorities and pain points

Remember, the goal isn't just to talk to customers — it's to gather actionable insights that can drive better innovation decisions.

Cheating on customer discovery interviews is like cheating in your parachute packing class.”
Steve Blank
Entrepreneur & author

Ready to strengthen your team's customer discovery capabilities? Learn more about how our Innovation Management Platform can help structure and streamline your customer research process while ensuring you gather actionable insights that drive results.

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About the speakers

Alex Osterwalder
Entrepreneur, speaker and business theorist

Dr. Alexander (Alex) Osterwalder is one of the world’s most influential innovation experts, a leading author, entrepreneur and in-demand speaker whose work has changed the way established companies do business and how new ventures get started.

Carol Hill
Program Director, webinar host

Carol is an experienced innovation, strategy and product development leader with a deep understanding of lean, design thinking, agile and scrum methodologies. She has a proven track record of leading teams in complex organisations such as the LEGO Group and Pearson PLC to embed innovation programs, tools and frameworks and in developing innovative products during digital and organisational transformations. She is a Program Director at Strategyzer and is passionate about helping businesses and individuals build the confidence they need for on-going growth and success.

Kurt Bostelaar
Program designer

Kurt designs learning experiences that transform how teams work. Through outcome focused programs, he helps practitioners rapidly grasp innovation concepts to create real impact in their organizations. His passion lies in making the complex simple, visual, and practical.

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Carol Hill
Kurt Bostelaar
December 9, 2024
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Centering Customers
Customer Insights
Platform
Testing
Value Proposition Canvas

Imagine your team has spent months developing the perfect solution. You've refined the features, polished the design, and mapped out the rollout plan. Then comes launch day, and... crickets. The market response is lukewarm at best. For many small and medium-sized enterprises, this scenario plays out far too often, usually stemming from a single root cause: insufficient customer understanding.

In a recent webinar, we explored why many teams struggle to capture meaningful insights from their customer interviews and how to overcome it. The data was eye-opening: When asked about their teams' interview capabilities, most participants rated their expertise between 2-3 out of 10. This matches what we see across organizations — while everyone agrees customer input is crucial, few feel equipped to gather it effectively.

The three key challenges in customer research

  1. Getting out of the building: Whether due to limited resources, unclear responsibilities, or simple reluctance, many teams struggle to initiate customer conversations. While some gatekeeping around customer access makes sense (especially in sales contexts), innovation teams need direct customer contact to succeed.
  2. Unstructured interviews: Without a clear framework, interviews often become scattered conversations that yield few actionable insights. Teams need a structured approach to gather enough data to detect patterns and make informed decisions.
  3. Extracting insights: Perhaps the most challenging aspect is turning customer conversations into clear, actionable insights that can drive decision-making. This becomes especially crucial when teams need to communicate findings to stakeholders.

A structured approach to customer understanding

One effective solution is to use the designed Customer Profile to conduct interviews. This method provides a clear framework for understanding customer jobs, pains, and gains while ensuring consistency across multiple interviews.

A Canadian consumer packaged goods company recently put this into practice. Their team, with no prior interview experience, conducted 20 customer profile interviews over several weeks. The results were striking: 91% of their initial assumptions about customer jobs needed revision, and 55% of their assumed customer pains were incorrect.

What made this approach effective was its structured nature. Rather than open-ended conversations, the team used a clear framework to:

  • Map their initial understanding of customer needs
  • Test these assumptions through structured interviews
  • Track patterns and insights systematically
  • Make evidence-based decisions about their innovation direction

Beyond basic interviews

While customer profile interviews provide an excellent foundation, they're not the only tool available. Other effective techniques include:

  • Speedboat analysis: A visual technique where customers identify factors helping or hindering their progress toward goals
  • Value scene mapping: Using visual scenarios to explore how solutions create value in specific contexts
  • Card sorting: For prioritizing features or needs based on customer input

The key is matching the right technique to your specific learning objectives and stage of development.


Kurt Bostelaar shows how the Innovation Management Platform helps teams gather and analyse customer feedback.

Moving forward

For teams starting their customer discovery journey, here are three practical steps:

  1. Start with a structured approach like Customer Profile interviews to build confidence and consistency
  2. Analyze findings weekly rather than waiting for all interviews to be complete
  3. Use visual techniques to deepen understanding of customer priorities and pain points

Remember, the goal isn't just to talk to customers — it's to gather actionable insights that can drive better innovation decisions.

Cheating on customer discovery interviews is like cheating in your parachute packing class.”
Steve Blank
Entrepreneur & author

Ready to strengthen your team's customer discovery capabilities? Learn more about how our Innovation Management Platform can help structure and streamline your customer research process while ensuring you gather actionable insights that drive results.

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